Comments on: “The Pod Dilution” – A 1023 Special http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/ A Podcast about Interesting Things Sun, 13 May 2012 18:24:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: Balham Skeptic http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Balham Skeptic Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:21:07 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-394 re Tom: Love the fact that 'an' 'homoeopath' apologist has found this site. Dispute that 10:23 was a "pointless publicity student". As Kenny Everett might have said someone here is being a Cupid Student. FLG: 1). is this some feline version of Godwin's Law being played out here? 2) so sorry to hear of cat's demise, though at least Waitrose is a classy exit. Please let me know location so I can start a little roadside shrine :-) re Tom:

Love the fact that ‘an’ ‘homoeopath’ apologist has found this site. Dispute that 10:23 was a “pointless publicity student”.

As Kenny Everett might have said someone here is being a Cupid Student.

FLG:

1). is this some feline version of Godwin’s Law being played out here?
2) so sorry to hear of cat’s demise, though at least Waitrose is a classy exit. Please let me know location so I can start a little roadside shrine :-)

]]> By: Shaded Spriter http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-393 Shaded Spriter Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:19:52 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-393 OF course it is possible to overdose on homeopathy - if it is liquid form drinking enough of it would induce Water intoxication. OF course it is possible to overdose on homeopathy – if it is liquid form drinking enough of it would induce Water intoxication.

]]> By: @jtmahony http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-392 @jtmahony Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:09:28 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-392 Hi Tom, I'm glad to hear your mother recovered. Without wanting to sound heartless, do you think her condition might have improved anyway, whether she took the "remedy" or not? It's certainly a possibility to be considered, no? How does it work on animals and babies? Where has this been demonstrated? What illnesses did it "cure"? Could you cite some references? There are Nobel prizes in physics and chemistry at stake for proof that homeopathy works. I'd love to see a revolution in science, it would change everything! Spontaneous recovery, the placebo effect and regression to the mean can explain most anecdotal evidence that seems to support homeopathy. To use a common but still accurate phrase: the plural of anecdote is not data. As Richard Feynman said: "Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool." Hence the need for double blind, rigorously controlled experimental conditions. And these have been done, time and again, showing that homeopathy does not work beyond the placebo effect. Anecdotes are virtually worthless because we are all so easily fooled by our emotions, faulty perception and fuzzy memories. Hi Tom,
I’m glad to hear your mother recovered. Without wanting to sound heartless, do you think her condition might have improved anyway, whether she took the “remedy” or not? It’s certainly a possibility to be considered, no?
How does it work on animals and babies? Where has this been demonstrated? What illnesses did it “cure”? Could you cite some references? There are Nobel prizes in physics and chemistry at stake for proof that homeopathy works. I’d love to see a revolution in science, it would change everything!
Spontaneous recovery, the placebo effect and regression to the mean can explain most anecdotal evidence that seems to support homeopathy. To use a common but still accurate phrase: the plural of anecdote is not data. As Richard Feynman said: “Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.” Hence the need for double blind, rigorously controlled experimental conditions. And these have been done, time and again, showing that homeopathy does not work beyond the placebo effect. Anecdotes are virtually worthless because we are all so easily fooled by our emotions, faulty perception and fuzzy memories.

]]> By: Dr*T http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Dr*T Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:04:41 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-391 Tom said: " anecodote ... confusion between correlation and causation... anecdote ... misunderstanding of placebo effect in animals ... "my experience is better than your science"" T Tom said:

” anecodote … confusion between correlation and causation… anecdote … misunderstanding of placebo effect in animals … “my experience is better than your science”"

T

]]> By: Frank James Gunn http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Frank James Gunn Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:00:32 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-390 Hi Tom, I tend to agree with you. Our cat Hitler was dying of feline AIDS and was given less than a month to live by our vet. We visited an animal homoeopath who suggested alternative therapeutics to enhance his bio-energy (life force) at the subtle dynamic levels, as this would boost Hitler's immune system as opposed to crude orthodox therapy, which would undoubtedly crush his feline spirit as well as actually suppress his ordinary immune response. Needless to say Hitler went on to live a happy symptom-free life until he was struck and killed 6 weeks later by a Waitrose delivery van. Best, FJG Hi Tom,

I tend to agree with you. Our cat Hitler was dying of feline AIDS and was given less than a month to live by our vet. We visited an animal homoeopath who suggested alternative therapeutics to enhance his bio-energy (life force) at the subtle dynamic levels, as this would boost Hitler’s immune system as opposed to crude orthodox therapy, which would undoubtedly crush his feline spirit as well as actually suppress his ordinary immune response.

Needless to say Hitler went on to live a happy symptom-free life until he was struck and killed 6 weeks later by a Waitrose delivery van.

Best,
FJG

]]> By: Tom http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-388 Tom Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:57 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-388 How witty and funny ! not. It is quite a well known fact among homoeopaths you can not overdose on Homoeopathy ? I think you guys should have done just a little bit more research. So what was the point of your demo ? If it is placebo based how can it possibly work in animals, babies and comatose individuals Like my mother who was given the last rights after 6 weeks of being in a coma through double Pneumonia and a brain haemorrhage, within 1 hour of taking a remedy 'sublingually', remarkably, started to recover ? I am not an homoeopath or have any interest in being so but have seen it work in some amazing situations with animals and babys. Your demo was a pointless publicity student for a desperate journalist and numerous medical/science students. When you have seen Homoeopathy work first hand you will know how effective this complementary medicine actually is. How witty and funny ! not. It is quite a well known fact among homoeopaths you can not overdose on Homoeopathy ? I think you guys should have done just a little bit more research. So what was the point of your demo ? If it is placebo based how can it possibly work in animals, babies and comatose individuals Like my mother who was given the last rights after 6 weeks of being in a coma through double Pneumonia and a brain haemorrhage, within 1 hour of taking a remedy ‘sublingually’, remarkably, started to recover ? I am not an homoeopath or have any interest in being so but have seen it work in some amazing situations with animals and babys. Your demo was a pointless publicity student for a desperate journalist and numerous medical/science students. When you have seen Homoeopathy work first hand you will know how effective this complementary medicine actually is.

]]> By: jim http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2010/02/01/the-pod-dilusion-a-1023-special/comment-page-1/#comment-338 jim Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:41:59 +0000 http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/?p=117#comment-338 You guys got this all wrong. Surely to overdose on homeopathic medicine you'd have to take LESS than the recommended dose? You guys got this all wrong. Surely to overdose on homeopathic medicine you’d have to take LESS than the recommended dose?

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